Ramsay, John - Lot 14
Birth Name | Ramsay, John - Lot 14 |
Gender | male |
Age at Death | about 53 years, 3 months, 10 days |
Narrative
NO PROOF THAT HE BELONGS WITH THIS FAMILY
John's baptism was not recorded in the PEI Baptismal Index. I believe he was the son of Neil Ramsay and Katherine McIntosh.
The entry for this John Ramsay on find a grave says "To date we have been unable to find definitive proof but we believe the parents of this John Ramsay were Margaret Murphy and Malcolm Ramsay." However,John's date of birth seems to be about 10 years out from the rest of Malcolm and Margaret's known children, so they were probably not his parents.
He could be the son of John and Margaret (Penman) Ramsay, or of Neil Ramsay and Katherine McIntosh. With a daughter named Catherine, I am liking this second possibility, so I am placing him with that family. Plus, I think the John Ramsay in Lot 13 who married Anne Pickering is a better fit for John and Margaret's family.
The marriage of John and Elizabeth was not in the online PEI Marriage Registers, so we don't know if this was a first marriage for John. Elizabeth's name and their dates came from their gravestone: John Ramsay died April 1865 in his 53rd years; his wife Elizabeth McLellan died May 1897 in her 75th year.
I am also assuming that John had a first wife, and a son Neil who died young. No proof, but it fits. However, only his children with Elizabeth were in his will, and his newspaper death notice said a widow and 6 children.
John Ramsay of Lot 14, husband of Elizabeth, left a will. He mentioned his brother Donald, and sons Ebenezer, Philip, Allan Fraser, and John. Daughters were Catherine and Elizabeth Jane.
Elizabeth was a widow in Lot 14 in the 1881 census. Her son, John Ramsay, age 26, was the head of household.
Canada Census, 1881
Name Elizabeth Ramsay
Age 59y
Birthplace Prince Edward Island
Marital Status Widowed
Ethnicity Scottish
Religion Presb
Head of Household Name John Ramsay
Event Place Lot 14, Prince, Prince Edward Island, Canada
District Number 1
Sub-District N
Page Number 40
Family Number 138
Affiliate Film Number C-13162
John Ramsay M 26y Prince Edward Island
Elizabeth Ramsay F 59y Prince Edward Island
Catharine Ramsay F 24y Prince Edward Island
Elizabeth Ramsay F 20y Prince Edward Island
Allan Ramsay M 18y Prince Edward Island
Citing this Record "Canada Census, 1881," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVN7-JXR : 18 November 2014), Elizabeth Ramsay in household of John Ramsay, Lot 14, Prince, Prince Edward Island, Canada; citing p. 40; Library and Archives Canada film number C-13162, Library and Archives Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 1,375,798.
Elizabeth was living with her married son John "Pamry" in the 1891 census. Elizabeth and Catherine gave their date of emigration as 1898 on the 1910 US census.
Willard Ramsay's farm in Lot 14 was near the farms of Neil and John Ramsay of Lot 14 on earlier maps.
Events
Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
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Birth | about 1812 | Lot 14, Prince County, Prince Edward Island, Canada | died in his 53rd year | |
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Death | April 11, 1865 | Arlington, Lot 14, Prince County, Prince Edward Island, Canada | Birch Hill Presbyterian Cemetery Lot 14 | |
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Parents
Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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Father | Ramsay, Neil - Lot 14 | about 1775 | ||
Mother | McIntosh, Katherine | about 1780 | before 1840 | |
Brother | Ramsay, Neil - Lot 14 Jr. | about 1805 | July 1864 | |
Brother | Ramsay, Angus - NB | about 1811 | February 11, 1886 | |
Ramsay, John - Lot 14 | about 1812 | April 11, 1865 | ||
Brother | Ramsay, Donald |
Families
Family of Ramsay, John - Lot 14 and McLellan, Elizabeth |
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Married | Wife | McLellan, Elizabeth ( * about 1822 + May 31, 1897 ) | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Children |
Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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Ramsay, Ebenezer E. | 1852 | March 15, 1905 |
Ramsay, John M. | September 25, 1854 | August 13, 1920 |
Ramsay, Catherine | about 1857 | September 1937 |
Ramsay, Philip | 1859 | April 23, 1918 |
Ramsay, Elizabeth Jane | about 1861 | 1942 |
Ramsay, Allan Fraser | about 1863 | December 27, 1890 |
Attributes
Type | Value | Notes | Sources |
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Merged Gramps ID | I20001 | ||
Merged Gramps ID | I18756 |