Ramsay, Archibald - Lot 4

Birth Name Ramsay, Archibald - Lot 4
Gender male
Age at Death about 90 years, 9 months, 25 days


Helen STEWART was born about 1800, daughter of Charles and Barbara Stewart, died on 16 Oct 1889 aged 89, and was buried in Alberton, PE, CAN. Burial Notes: Old Dock Cemeter, newspaper death notices.

Helen married Archibald RAMSAY, son of Malcolm "Moccasin" RAMSAY and Margaret MURPHY in 1828. Archibald was said to be one of 17 children, 8 of whom died young. He died on 26 Oct 1886 aged about 82, and was buried in Alberton, PEI; however he said he was age 85 in the 1881 census, which would give him an earlier birth date.

Archibald and Helen were said to have had 12 children: Malcolm, Charles, Mary, Barbara, Ellen, June, Nellie, John, Donald, Margaret, Charles and James. Burial Notes: Old Dock Cemetery, undocumented family tree. In a letter cited in a local history, James, a younger brother of Archibald said their children were Malcolm, Barbara, Ellen, John and Charles - these may have been their surviving children.

With dates found in various records, their first four children were named after grandparents, Malcolm, born 1832, Mary, Charles and Barbara, and after Malcolm, Archibald and Helen had children every 2 years until 1841. Helen might have had children up until age 47, but she was unlikely to have been the mother of the very young children in the 1861 census.

The 1861 census entry for Archibald Ramsay, a farmer in Lot 4, included a married couple and five single people. There had been 2 births in the previous year (twins?), which seems unlikely for a woman of Helen's age.
1 boy and 1 girl under 5 ?
1 boy between 5-15
1 girl 15-21 (Ellen)
1 woman 21-45 (Mary)
1 woman 45-60 (Helen)
1 male over 60 (Archibald)

Malcolm had probably already left home - he married in the States in 1861. Charles was in New Brunswick in 1861, and if I have the right John Ramsay, he was in the States by 1871, but when he left the Island is unknown.

Archibald (age 85) and Ellen (age 80) were in Lot 4 in the 1881 census.

Royal Gazette Friday August 27, 1869
Note about seizing the property "of the said John Ramsay. All the right. title and interest of the said John Ramsay. in and to Fifty aerosol land. more or less. together with the buildings and improvements thereon, at present in the occupation of Archibald Ramsay. situate, lying and being in Lot or Township Number Four, in Prince County. and I hereby give Public Notice. that I will. on “rednesday, the First day of September..."

No will or estate papers found for Archibald or Helen. Summerside Journal, 4 Nov 1886 said Archibald Ramsay died in Alberton at age 92.


Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth about 1796 Lot 16, Prince County, Prince Edward Island, Canada date from 1881 census, age at death would indicate b. 1804  
Death October 26, 1886 Lot 4, Prince County, Prince Edward Island, Canada at age 82; buried in Alberton  


Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Ramsay, Malcolm “Moccasin Mac” - Lot 16 &17about 17571841
Mother Murphy, Margaret Maryabout 1761September 22, 1839
    Sister     Ramsay, Janet Jennie about 1782
    Sister     Ramsay, Helen Nellie about 1784 June 5, 1875
    Brother     Ramsay, John Sr. 1789 April 14, 1873
    Brother     Ramsay, Donald about 1790 before 1826
    Sister     Ramsay, Margaret about 1792 March 11, 1875
    Sister     Ramsay, Mary about 1794 December 3, 1862
         Ramsay, Archibald - Lot 4 about 1796 October 26, 1886
    Brother     Ramsay, William about 1801
    Brother     Ramsay, Charles S. January 4, 1804 September 30, 1889
    Brother     Ramsay, James March 6, 1806 April 8, 1894


Family of Ramsay, Archibald - Lot 4 and Stewart, Helen Eleanor

Married Wife Stewart, Helen Eleanor ( * about 1799 + October 16, 1889 )
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage August 29, 1828 Prince Edward Island, Canada married by Donald Montgomery, Esq., JP  
Name Birth Date Death Date
Ramsay, Jane June
Ramsay, Donald
Ramsay, Margaret
Ramsay, James
Ramsay, MalcolmAugust 18321913
Ramsay, MaryDecember 10, 1833May 4, 1907
Ramsay, Charlesabout 1834before 1837
Ramsay, Annabout 1836
Ramsay, Charles Stewart Sr.about 1837July 4, 1914
Ramsay, Barbara Stuart Stewartabout 1839June 21, 1886
Ramsay, Ellen Helen StewartApril 29, 18401922
Ramsay, JohnMarch 1841February 13, 1922